David Seymour's Treaty Principles Bill will have its first reading in Parliament today, where National will support it. But with National refusing to support it further, is the entire exercise a waste of time? 

Also, the government has apologised to victims of abuse suffered while in state care - but what is the plan for redress?

Labour's Health and Wellington issues spokesperson Ayesha Verrall and National's Otaki MP joined Nick Mills for Politics Thursday.

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