10 November 2024:  After being put under mental health act and ending up in the psych ward for three weeks end of 2023, Rob Harley, one of New Zealand's most experienced journalists, finally saw that he needed to address what was under the surface. In his decades as a journalist, Rob had been exposed to multiple traumatic event which he describes as leaving "callouses on the heart".

He talks to  Hamish Williams and psychotherapist Kyle MacDonald about how he finally made space to process what he'd been holding.

With thanks to NZ on Air.

LISTEN ABOVE