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European leaders are scrambling to work out a security plan - without US support.
France is hosting an emergency summit regarding the war in Ukraine while US and Russian officials are en route to Saudi Arabia for their own talks to try to end the conflict.
Ukraine's Prime Minister is also in the Middle East, but won't be part of the talks.
Europe correspondent Catherine Field told Mike Hosking it feels like the ground is shifting, but no one knows which way it's moving.
She says it's because there are so many confusing remarks and opinions coming out of the Trump administration.
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