Last night saw the first leaders’ debate between Labour’s Chris Hipkins and National’s Chris Luxon. 

Most seem to agree that it was a lacklustre affair, with Luxon perhaps winning by a hair.  

Political Commentator Brigitte Morten told Mike Hosking that in the past, audiences would see politicians under pressure when it came to live debates. 

She said that since every press conference is now streamed live on social media, the pressure is off, and the debates just become a competition of talking points.  

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