The Government are determined to pin Three, or Five, Waters confusion on the farmers.

Megan Woods on the Mike Hosking Breakfast on Wednesday said the whole "Five Waters" discourse was because the farmers wanted geothermal and coastal waters to be covered by Three Waters.

Federated Farmers said that wasn't the case, but Local Government Minister Nanaia Mahuta doubled down in the house yesterday when asked by National's Simon Watts.

Federated Farmers president Andrew Hoggard joined Mike Hosking.

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