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Luxon and Albanese meet in Canberra; Aukus and 501s on agenda

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Jason Walls,
Publish Date
Fri, 16 Aug 2024, 12:40pm

Luxon and Albanese meet in Canberra; Aukus and 501s on agenda

Author
Jason Walls,
Publish Date
Fri, 16 Aug 2024, 12:40pm

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says it’s a “delight” to have his New Zealand counterpart Christopher Luxon in Canberra.

The pair are expected to touch on regional security, the Aukus agreement as New Zealand considers joining Pillar II, and the ongoing irritant of Australia’s deportations programme.

Speaking to media today, Albanese said it was a chance to talk through a range of issues together.

He covered the history between the two countries, saying it was “a partnership”.

“We regard ourselves as family ... We steer by the same stars.”

Albanese said when the two first met soon after the New Zealand election, Luxon had canvassed boosting the relationship and furthering the links between the economic markets.

“I’m pleased New Zealand has joined Australia in the Climate Club,” he said.

“We’ve also talked about a seamless transition of our people being able to go through in a contactless way between the two countries.”

Touching on defence, Albanese said the two countries have “committed to working in lockstep like never before”.

The paid had talked about New Zealand’s current defence review, and better inter-operability between the two defence forces, while also agreeing to work together on cyber attacks, saying depending on the form a cyber-attack made, it could constitute an attack under the ANZUS Treaty.

Albanese raised his move to make citizenship easier for New Zealanders, saying since then 60,000 had applied.

The Australian leader also acknowledged Turkiye and fires underway on the Gallipoli peninsula, noting the links of Australia and New Zealand to that area.

In response, Luxon said there had been “warm and productive talks”.

“We are working hand in hand with Australia, we both face a challenging global environment that we haven’t seen in decades,” Luxon said.

He said Australia was New Zealand’s only ally, and the defence forces were working together “seamlessly” - deployed together in nine places.

Luxon said they had decided to prioritise defence procurement as they worked toward inter-operability, as well as personnel placements in defence.

He said there was work on making it easier for businesses to operate in each other’s countries and aligning regulations such as in the building sector.

The pair had also discussed the freedom to live and work in each other’s countries, Luxon said.

On 501s, Luxon said they had agreed “to engage closely” on Australia’s approach to deporting New Zealanders with limited links to New Zealand.

Asked about how New Zealand would contribute more in the Indo-Pacific and the defence capability review, Luxon said the two countries wanted to work together as well as they could. He referred to New Zealand boosting its contribution to monitoring sanctions on North Korea.

Before the meeting, Luxon described Australia as an “indispensable ally” but said there were some areas he intended to raise, including his wish for Albanese to return to a more lenient approach on the 501 deportees issue.

It is their third face-to-face meeting and Luxon said yesterday he was looking for a return to the more “commonsense” approach under Jacinda Ardern’s administration, under which more consideration was given to the connection any potential deportees had with New Zealand.

Australia had backed away from that earlier this year.

“I appreciate there are domestic Australian issues around that,” Luxon told travelling media yesterday.

“Australia’s free to make its own decisions but we want to make sure that we have a commonsense approach to that – that people who have very little affiliation with New Zealand shouldn’t be sent back to New Zealand, frankly.”

He said that was something he planned to “advocate very strongly” when he met Albanese this afternoon.

Prime Minister Christopher Luxon is meeting his counterpart in Australia. Photo / PoolPrime Minister Christopher Luxon is meeting his counterpart in Australia. Photo / Pool 

Luxon and a team of his ministers touched down in Canberra last night after an infrastructure “fact-finding” mission in Sydney. 

The Prime Minister finished that leg of the trip with a major foreign policy speech to the Lowy Institute, saying New Zealand’s “strategic outlook is deteriorating more rapidly than at any time in our lifetimes”. 

“In short, the world is getting more difficult and more complex, particularly so for those smaller states navigating increasingly stormy seas. However, we must engage with the world as it is, not as we wish it to be.” 

Christopher Luxon (right) with Anthony Albanese in Sydney in December 2023. Photo / Adam PearseChristopher Luxon (right) with Anthony Albanese in Sydney in December 2023. Photo / Adam Pearse 

He touched on several geostrategic issues, including Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the conflict between Israel and Hamas. 

Luxon also made specific mention of China – New Zealand’s biggest trading partner. 

“As I conveyed to Premier Li when he visited New Zealand, the difference in values and systems of government means there are issues on which we cannot and will not agree. 

“Where we disagree, we will raise our concerns privately and also, when necessary, publicly in a consistent and predictable manner.” 

That speech – particularly his focus on the New Zealand/Australia relationship – serves as a backdrop to Luxon’s meeting with Albanese today. 

The issue of 501 deportees will also loom large over the meeting and subsequent joint press conference. 

Earlier this year, the Australian Government unwound the “commonsense” approach to the way its foreign-born criminals were deported. 

For years there has been political tension between New Zealand and Australia over the 501 programme. 

Former Prime Ministers Sir John Key and Dame Jacinda Ardern argued against the deportation of criminals who were born in New Zealand but had no real connection to it. 

In mid-2022, Ardern managed to get Albanese to agree to a “commonsense” approach, which she said would see few people with little to no connection with New Zealand deported here. 

But after domestic pressure in Australia earlier this year, that policy was changed. 

Meanwhile, New Zealand’s pipeline of infrastructure – and what can be learned from Australia – will also be high on Luxon’s agenda. 

New Zealand Prime Minister Christopher Luxon met New South Wales Premier Chris Minns in Sydney on Thursday.New Zealand Prime Minister Christopher Luxon met New South Wales Premier Chris Minns in Sydney on Thursday. 

He spent most of yesterday rubbing shoulders with top-level infrastructure bosses and officials. 

After meetings at Beca, he and his team of ministers made their way further downtown to meet New South Wales Premier Chris Minns. 

“We want to make this relationship work and take it to the next level,” Minns said. 

A theme among the infrastructure experts Luxon spoke to yesterday was bipartisanship. 

Infrastructure New South Wales chairman Graham Bradley said as much after he met with the Prime Minister. 

He said having an apolitical approach to building significant projects was key to Sydney’s success. 

That’s a view Luxon’s taken on board. 

“We want to take the politics out of infrastructure,” he said. 

“With our short political cycles, and various bits of political intervention, we want to make sure that we can depoliticise it.” 

Jason Walls is Newstalk ZB’s political editor and has years of experience in radio and print, including in the Parliamentary Press Gallery for the NZ Herald and Interest.co.nz. 

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